Novice and experienced button collectors – get tips on putting a competition tray together with a Zoom Q&A session with Annie Frazier on Sunday, February 21 at 4 p.m. Any questions are welcome but the featured topic will be how to label classifications for the more “ordinary” shell buttons, as above. Hint: Look at the back, maybe not so ordinary!
Anyone who clicks through to this post may join the zoom meeting on 2-21 at 4 pm Eastern time https://us02web.zoom.us/j/82206862694 and to join by phone use Meeting ID: 822 0686 2694 and call 1 646 558 8656.
TO SUBMIT A QUESTIONsend a pictures of the button, front and back, to ButtonsinNewJersey@gmail.com
We will have them either posted or ready to show on the screen.
Questions – call me at 609-759-4804 or firstname.lastname@example.org
#1 — Would this be considered a carved ocean oyster smoky gray
?#2 — This looks like shell which is set in a brass setting, but I don’t know the proper terminology for it.
#3 — I can’t identify which shell, but it’s laying on top of another, different material (maybe bone?). Again, I don’t know what the classification is for this combination
.#4 — I think this is another carved ocean oyster smoky gray, but it’s a shank button. Is there a carving classification for geometric design
?#5 — This looks like yet another ocean oyster smoky gray, but with a pink shank
.#6 — This one is very small, but has a lot of different features. It’s got concentric circles, with what looks like an etched border, and within that border is shell that has mirror-like metal pieces set into it. Again, I don’t know the correct terms for this#7 –This button has parallel carving on an iridescent shell and has 4 holes. Is there anything unusual to comment about this on
e?#8 — This shank button is very iridescent. I think it’s called rainbow iridescent, and it’s got a deep, metal shank. It’s also carved. It’s pretty, but is it worth using for a competition?
#9 and #10 — Both look like the same type — geometrically-carved ocean oyster smoky gray. Is there anything outstanding about either of these, and which of these 2 should be entered, if at all?
#11 — This looks like a 4-hole mother-of-pearl that’s been carved. The back looks more like mother of pearl than the front. Am I wrong on all of this
#12 — This also looks like mother of pearl, but the carving is diamond shaped. Is it worth using in the competition just on looks, or is there something else about it that I’m missing? (Barbara Fox says — look at my post, the same button, but painted! I’m asking if we take THIS button and paint it ourselves, where does it belong 🙂
#13 — Another mother of pearl, but the carving is different. Is it worth using?#14 — This piece is carved, 4-hole and I think it’s carved rainbow iridescent. Is this one special enough?
#15 — This button is simple, but so beautiful — very much a rainbow iridescent brass shank button. But is it too redundant compared with the other buttons?
#16 — /this is the largest button selected. It’s got a little carving, and it looks slightly iridescent, but more of a dull finish. The interesting part is that it’s very concave/convex. Is there a special name for that type of button?
Here’s a novice question. Above is a shell button with a very large metal disk on the back. How does that get classified? Is it an escutcheon on the front and does the circle of the metal escutcheon count for anything?
Is is possible that the shell above meets all these classifications?
11-1 Iridescent shell.
11-4.2 Gilded applied metallic gold
11-5.4 Overlay (versus it being one piece and different colors)
11-7.2 OME metal
Can the shell above be
11-4.3 Painted (are the black circles painted)
Are the circles and the indentations carved (11-8.1 or
/this shell tray offers possibilities for analysis. How many carved specimens are there? Do any have another category
Thanks to Danielle Nicole who posted it on Button Byhtes.
The Division 1 button above is painted (11-4.3 paint/paint encrusted.) QUESTION: Can we take a Div III button, ordinary and made recently, and add our own painted design so that the button can qualify as painted? Or does that make it a studio button?
First, can you say this is a Division 1 button, i.e. made before 1919. It does not seem well made. The real question is, can you use this button to explain frames? Definition of “frame:” the body of the button forms a frame for a center of any material other than shell. So this ISN”T a frame. Is it shell mounted in metal? Where is that in the blue book? Or is it an OME as in 11-7.2 Metal assorted…including “ornate mountings, cut steel border, rim, elaborate border etc. ”
Chris Parham responded to my watch wheel question: Watchwheel historical tidbit Michigan BS members were docent/curators at a small museum, which had a documented wedding dress/suit soft rust wool w/watchwheel pearls from neck to waist on bodice, & next county over another historic house museum also had a documented wedding dress/bodice with them too, so at least in this region they were possibly a “fad” or perhaps same region seamstress.
If yours had a watchwheel under the cut steel..Even this one may be suspect, wheel thick, but is separate under the cut steel pin. So I guess that will be my inquiry. Some watchwheels are thin & precise, some less so on otherwise nice quality button…will enjoy hearing more about them.
For the Zoom Q&A on February 15 at 2 p.m. I will ask — why does this button have concnetric circles of different colors, yet it feels smooth, with everything on the same plane? It’s a thin button, but could thinner layers have been inserted? Sew through with etching, steels, and possible inlay?
For the Zoom Q&A on shell, I am asking — is this a shell button? What material surrounds the shell? Composition? Horn? So is it Composition with inlay pearl and inlay mirrors? (What are the shiny circles called, and what are they called when they are not shiny but black?
(THE POST BELOW REFERS TO A ZOOM SESSION ON FEBRUARY 15).FOR THE FEBRUARY 21 DISCUSSION GO TO “Collecting” on this website or click here)
I am dedicating February to study shell buttons – with the help of Annie Frazier’s instructional videos. (Maybe you are too?)
I am entering the nine-shell buttons – first ever virtual competition (Maybe you are too?)
Deadline to submit photos of trays is March 1: Div 9, Class 11-7.0 Shell Assorted. 9 Buttons Any Size, try to cover as many classes as possible. List all classes that apply to each button. Label shell types if known. The purpose of this award is to see how well you understand the shell classification. Include pictorial sections and shapes.
I am taking some “shell with metals” small buttons and looking at them closely. I’ll pose these and other questions to Annie in a Zoom session. Send YOUR questions to email@example.com and we can all learn together! And if you have ANSWERS send them also.
This is shell is pierced, has metals, a star thaped metal, and has a star shape and a crescent moon shape. But is the moon an overlay or a cameo?
I thought this was oyster shell, and it has shaped metals. But is the center circle an “inset” or is that part of the main shell carving?
Here’s another green snail that I am trying to use as a watch wheel.
Carol Stout Meszaros was a staunch supporter of button collecting in general and NJSBS in particular. With her sister, Sonia Force, Carol cofounded Central Jersey Buttoniers in 1986. For the state society, she was an at-large board director. She appreciated the craftsmanship of the older buttons and admired their beauty. She particularly loved how hunt club buttons reveal that different countries hunt with different hounds – fox hounds, beagle hounds, mink and otter hounds, blood hounds, and harrier hounds,
Always eager to learn something new, she taught herself from books – and was thrilled to find a first edition of the Big Book of Buttons. “Time passes quickly when you are in your books,” she used to say.
Carol was a born teacher. She had an organized mind and an organized approach to helping me, a confused beginner who had inherited a collection. With her, I learned to identify materials. From an unsorted pile of vintage buttons, she would select one or two materials for me to study – and then test me on them the following week. She showed me how looking through books to identify a button can be an exciting adventure. Her mentoring cleared my path to being a serious collector and whetted my desire to help others love to collect as well.
Together we gave talks at libraries; I told the history and she gave detailed instructions on care and handling. She developed a technique guaranteed to get people excited about buttons. After the talks, we offered free poke buttons and showed how to mount them using paper plates, nails, and wires.
Like her sister, Sonia, Carol had a supportive husband for her collecting endeavors. Bob, retired from AT&T, supplied the coated wires, stripped from telephone cables, that we gave away. Bob and Carol visited antique shops together and were able to buy the stock of a retired dealer, Typically she spent seven to eight hours a week sorting and cleaning the buttons. Bob, Carol told me, “helped me immeasurably,” cleaning and re-carding.
Buttons are not the only hobby Carol and Bob enjoyed together. They belong to the Washington Crossing Card Collectors Club, which also meets at the firehouse.
For her career as a paralegal, Carol had taken classes at Rider University and earned an associate’s degree at Mercer County Community College. Carol contributed her organizational efficiency to other community projects. She collected stories for an oral history project about Hopewell, and through Pleasant Valley Stitchers, she was a loyal volunteer at Howell Farms.
Bob and Carol have lived just up the street from the Union Fire Company, where NJSBS holds its meetings, for more than 50 years. Their son Steven lives in Bucks County, PA, with his son Sonny. Her fafmily – and her button friends – will continue to be inspired by her life.